Initial Embedded Jpg does not match the image in develop..........

[thazooo]

I've posted about the problem as well as others. Answers have always been to not use any custom settings in camera or create a pre-set.
An interesting discovery, while reading a post on another forum about WB not matching between different RAW converters, I checked ACDSee Pro 6.
I set my cameras to a WB of 5000K. Call it a Universal WB and it works for me. ACDSee Pro 6 reads this setting and interprets it to a WB of 5590K. HuH.........
When I dial the Temp back to 5000K, the colors are very close to the embedded JPG and what I would expect from a Raw Convert.

All this being said, you other folks that are having problems with the jpg matching the RAW in develop, you might check this.
As for ACDSee, why does your converter interpret 5000K as 5590K ? Kind of a big swing for a set WB

Dana

[njlarsen]

Which camera are you using? It might be worth it contacting support directly with this observation.

To demonstrate that camera might make a difference here: I am using a panasonic GH2. When Raw support was added (in Pro6, I think) the white balance almost always needed tweaking. With Pro7, there had been some kind of behind the scenes change, it is much better now. I think it is because panasonic is a small brand and support for it got improved.

If you have not done so yet, try to download the free preview of Pro7 and see if there is a difference for you.

Niels

[thazooo]

The brand is Pentax. I've used the 5000K setting on the K10D, K20D, and The K50. I checked back over the shots from the older models and they have the same problem.
Since I've been 'complaining' about it over several versions, it's not something new. I've got no idea on how to contact support but I would link to this thread if someone knows
the contact routine.

Dana

[njlarsen]

https://acdsystems.desk.com/customer/en/portal/emails/new

[thazooo]

Thanks. Report sent with link to this thread. We'll see what they have to say.
I've been reluctant to try the new version since I have to use a different Raw Converter as an 'External Program'. I started doing this in Pro 5.
Pro 6 has some good tools that work well. Catalog is good as well.
It would be nice if the WB issue could be resolved.

Dana

[pdefeo]

It could be that Pentax put the white balance information in a non-standard field and that's why ACDSee cannot know what the right value is. Manufacturers do that all the time.

[Marc Sabatella]

Despite the illusion created by software user interfaces, white balance is not a simple matter of "color temperature". Nor even "color temperature" and "tint". That"s a gross oversimplication made because actually making you pick the exact intensity of each frequency in the color specturm would be impractical. This means that single number like "5000K" really has no single universal meaning. Two different light sources might both have a nominal "color temperature" of 5000K but in actuality have quite different color spectrums. So it's fallacy to expect a single color temperature number to mean the exact same thing in all contexts - across all cameras, all software, etc. As I recall from previous discussions, Pentax in particular does not both to store a single number in the RAW file to represent "color temperature" - instead, it actually stores a representation of the color spectrum itself. I think this may even be dictated by the DNG standard, which Pentax was one of the first to embrace. Anyhow, if my recollection is correct, then you DNG or PEF file doesn't contain the actual number 5000 in it anywhere - it contains a representation of the color specturm of the light itself, which different software might interpret slightly differently. In amy case, if you prefer Pentax's interpretation of how to apply that color spectrum to the ikage in performing white balance over ACDSee's intepretation - a completely subjective determination - you can tweak ACDSee's to bias everything in the direction you like by creating a custom color curve as part of you Develop presets. Conversely, you can also tweak your camera to do the same - Pentax cameras at least have a pretty similar control that tweaks how they interpret the exact same specturm information.

[thazooo]

The reply from support pointed back to Marc's reply.

Dana