Renaming in 2021

[ajansen]

I see your point. I am still having problems even just getting a reasonable sequential naming system working in ACDSee - subject of another post. For all the slick features, the program has some annoying basic quirks.

[popman]

Unfortunately, this is only true if you work WITHIN the catalog, which is only a part of my work..... If I need to rename files meaningful check what meaningful files have been sent to customers, this is no use.

It is a bug, needs to and will be fixed. (Just wondering if someone ever did some testing before they released it .....)

[ajansen]

From a relative newbie to ACDSee - but I am very familiar with databases and how to use them.

Rather than store names, or indeed any information in filenames and folders, the database approach would be to name the files anything, as long as there are no conflicts with other files. A simple serial number would do. Then use either the Category, or the Keywords, to store all the names you use, and tag each file ( or group of files ) with the name tag during the import ( or anytime convenient ) Then you just select any required name from the catalog, and just images for those names are shown.

t takes a bit of work to set up the Category ( or Keyword ) tree how you want, but once done, tagging files with the right keyword is a simple click on a checkbox, no typing needed at all.

That completely removes the need to keep track of filenames and gives you much more flexibility. For instance you may have a "Company" category, and sub categories with departments and names from just that company. Then you can 'drill down' through the tree of categories, and select ever narrower collections of images.

Another advantage is if a name changes, you just change the name in the category tree, and all the relevant images are still found, with no change to the filenames.

If you are used to just using folder and file names, this is a big change in thinking. But once you get used to it, the flexibility and power to select by all sorts of different structures is a huge advantage.

[Alice]

Hi Mark,

I appreciate the update and timescales.

Take care and thank you.


A.

[mcosgrove]

Hello,

I am sorry, but the rename issue has not been fixed in ACDSee 14.0.1. This release addressed Unicode bugs + some other issues.

But the rename issue is on our radar, but it is a bigger problem to address, and we plan to fix it in ACDSee 14.1. Planned to be released in December 2020 or January 2021.

I apologize for the inconvenience the rename issue presents for some customers.

All the best,
Mark

[Alice]

There is a new build :

14.0.1.2451

superseding 14.0.0.2431, I wonder if this issue has been addressed....

[Alice]

Hi there.

so just waiting for LV_Bill to update.... (see comment above)

[popman]

Just tried it myself.
Serious Bug. Cannot move to 2021 until resolved.
I just hope it is not a bug like the cropping bug which gets carried over since ACDSee 15 !!! https://forum.acdsee.com/forum/main-...east-acdsee-15

Have you raised a case?

[Alice]

'This means you would have to manually type the template in 2021?!'

popman, yes you are correct.

A previously simple and fast rename has now become tedious and time consuming to complete in 2021.

[popman]

Wow!
That would be a no-go for me as well as I need to rename quite a lot.
In 2020 the new name template was always the filename in the list. You say this is not the case in 2021 and double clicking the fisrt filename also does not change the template??
This means you would have to manually type the template in 2021?!

[Alice]

I am not using 2021, yet, but double clicking on any filename most probably changes the template to that filename (this is what 2020 does).

Nope, that does not work in 2021

[popman]

Thanks Retepsa, but when I move to the next folder, which is called say 'Ian Jones', the rename 'Template' for 'Dave Smith' shows.

What I need ACDSee to do is take the first part of the name of the files in the current folder as the name to be applied to new files in that folder. So it would switch to 'Ian Jones' when in that folder, then back to 'Dave Smith' when in that folder. Which it always used to do.

I have just checked that in ACDSee Ultimate 2019 and it works that way automatically.

I am not using 2021, yet, but double clicking on any filename most probably changes the template to that filename (this is what 2020 does).

[Alice]

Hi Emil and thanks for taking an interest

so I have around 500 folders of regular customer names. Photos that relate to each Customer are held in their named folder. New photos for a customer are just copied en-masse into that customer's folder, because that's really quick.

What I then do (to rename new files) is.... I view the contents in the ACDSee Manage mode window, then check the 'sorting' is set as : [View] / [Sort By] / 'Filename' / 'Sort Forward'. If there are any files that need to be renamed that sort to the top of the list by this action, I manually drag them to the end of the list. Finally [Ctrl+A] / [F2] to create a numeric sequence :- Dave Smith - 01.jpg / Dave Smith - 02.jpg....../ Dave Smith - 900.jpg :-)

[Emil]

At Alice. Just for curiosity, how do would you deal with these lists?

Extra file above the name giving file:
abc.jpg
Dave Smith - 01.jpg
Dave Smith - 02.jpg
Dave Smith - 03.jpg
Dave Smith - 04.jpg
extra file.jpg


One of the name giving files missing:
Dave Smith - 01.jpg
Dave Smith - 02.jpg
Dave Smith - 04.jpg
extra file.jpg

[Alice]

Morning LV_Bill

thanks for taking the time to follow this Thread through and report to ACDSee :-)

Fingers crossed for a 'new' option or other corrective action.